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Noticed a weird noise coming from my engine.  Sort off a clack clack clack sound at the end of lanes but it almost immediately disappears. 

Found a good ol' boy on YouTube with the simliar noise.  Any ideas shipmates?

Skip to 1:40 to avoid unnecessary irritation.

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A hot stretched chain slackening and slapping - does it do it when it's cold...? Hope nothing more serious.

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Sticking cam chain tensioner? 

Located on rear of the barrel on left side of the engine. 



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I assume it has enough oil in it? Could be a cam tensioner or chain as suggested

From what you describe I would suspect clutch basket though, noise appears at the end of the lane when the motor is hot and you use the clutch?



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I don't get anything from the the video but start simple and work your way up.
Check engine mountings, top one rattles free on XR's and you'd think the piston was coming out.
Cam chain adjustment is manual on XR but not sure about CRF.
Advance/retard unit suffer from broken springs.
Peg in cam locating CDI trigger wear out and rattle.
Cam bearings fail.

After that it's time to open up and check the clutch.

Have you been servicing it properly?


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You bloody novice!

just a quick glance through your Honda handbook and you'll find it's feature no 3 of theses fine m/c's.

1. B'stard to start unless you screw tickover right in and fill airbox with easy start.(extinguish all fags)

2. Complete lack of braking.( however the more experienced riders have learnt to dismount in a superman style at the first hint of a downhill section).

3.Clackitty clack at the end of every lane.

Foget about the Snaff, I've got a metal core drill so we can reach any faulty component without the hassle of removing the motor, up here for dancing kid,x

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Snaf - cam chain adjuster is automatic. We had one stick in Spain on a second hand bike we bought.  Easy enough to change.  Never had any clutch or bearing issues and if 4years on rough Spanish tracks doesn't loosen engine mounts I'd be surprised if it's that on tims lightly used machinedisbelief



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It'll be the clackety clack optional extra...

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Dirty Ming wrote:

Snaf - cam chain adjuster is automatic. We had one stick in Spain on a second hand bike we bought.  Easy enough to change.  Never had any clutch or bearing issues and if 4years on rough Spanish tracks doesn't loosen engine mounts I'd be surprised if it's that on tims lightly used machinedisbelief





New fangled machinery with no character, what would I know about that?

Tim if you want an opinion I could come and have a listen to it.

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Stethoscope Snaf

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I'm paranoid again.

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Oh no I'm not!



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Off for fresh air and fresh air ....

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Thanks for the advice and offer of assistance chums. biggrin

It's due an oil  change this week so I'll do that and check bolts & stuff and take it from there.

Rob, it needs to be hot to make the noise so may try my luck when passing your gaff at some point?



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Have you been near any Harleys recently?



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Strangely enough a posse of 4 or 5 came and parked up next to us in Totty by the cafe.

That would explain it then.  Panic over.

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Is that a Posse or Pussies? 

Must be a case of Harleyitous then. Check the bike for unnecessary bling/leather/ shiny bits. The disease is contagious to humans and can quickly spread between normal sane clear thinking people and can make affected persons dribble and drool over big saddles, loud noises, chrome and paint jobs. These are the early symptoms.
Later this escalates to frequent visits to Harley dealers where the brain momentarily  stops functioning entirely and a misty eyed appearance occurs whereby everything appears in a soft candlelight focus with angels playing harps. This usually then results in a purchase of said machine. The illness progresses so badly that the inflicted person actually starts riding the bike which clearly they were never intended for. When out the Harleys tend to congregate in packs called Hogerds and frequently stop to exchange nods and winks. You can usually tell if a Hogerd has been somewhere recently by the awesomeness they have leaked out onto the ground.

Late stages of the disease progress to leather and denim, chains, badges and chaps and cowboy boots even Tattoos. In the very worse cases bloating occurs, the brain stops functioning entirely and the unfortunate becomes an egotistic jibbering wreck, or American as they are known.

The only known cure is to have the credit card surgically removed.



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FBF wrote:

Is that a Posse or Pussies? 

Must be a case of Harleyitous then. Check the bike for unnecessary bling/leather/ shiny bits. The disease is contagious to humans and can quickly spread between normal sane clear thinking people and can make affected persons dribble and drool over big saddles, loud noises, chrome and paint jobs. These are the early symptoms.
Later this escalates to frequent visits to Harley dealers where the brain momentarily  stops functioning entirely and a misty eyed appearance occurs whereby everything appears in a soft candlelight focus with angels playing harps. This usually then results in a purchase of said machine. The illness progresses so badly that the inflicted person actually starts riding the bike which clearly they were never intended for. When out the Harleys tend to congregate in packs called Hogerds and frequently stop to exchange nods and winks. You can usually tell if a Hogerd has been somewhere recently by the awesomeness they have leaked out onto the ground.

Late stages of the disease progress to leather and denim, chains, badges and chaps and cowboy boots even Tattoos. In the very worse cases bloating occurs, the brain stops functioning entirely and the unfortunate becomes an egotistic jibbering wreck, or American as they are known.

The only known cure is to have the credit card surgically removed.


biggrinbiggrin Love it, bang on mate, wot a bunch of weapons.Let's get a posse of pussies and chuck eggs at lucky's windows.x



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"...awesomeness they have leaked out onto the ground..." prose like poetry and worthy of pointing out next time a leaky n dribble bearded Harley hair storm is in you vicinity.

Then the fight started....








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Paranoid?

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Arrr.

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The statues are troublesome when they chat like this.

I think my avatar needs to be a peyote cactus and I need to go and find out what that's all about.

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I'd like to put Peterbc's name down for the posse of pussy's co's he's too much of a phanny to do it himself.x

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Boyo don't you be messin with ma heed, other than for scientific or furtherance of something purposes. I have plenty of other influences at present. That being said even I, in a twisted and confused frame of mind, cannot concur that becoming a Hogerd would be good. I shall however smoke n reflect upon the suggestion. Hope the summer is sunny in Africa.

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Aye the Heads of Easter Island all agreed Peyote next.

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Their ghosts said "OK, but spliff first"

Sound advice.







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I'm guessing best be a head prepared for weather ....

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Bike fixed Tim?

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Isaak Walton wrote:

Bike fixed Tim?


Dunno yet matey.  Have changed the oil etc and checked for loose bits.  Will know more after the next outing.  When are you back?

 



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Soon home, but nae hame for a wee while with time to ride out. End February early March ....seems a month away..

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Isaak Walton wrote:

 Hope the summer is sunny in Africa.


 Probably will be, but he is in New Zealand which brings me to the question "Where is old Zealand"? and how come they let you in?



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FBF wrote:
Isaak Walton wrote:

 Hope the summer is sunny in Africa.


 Probably will be, but he is in New Zealand which brings me to the question "Where is old Zealand"? and how come they let you in?


C-

Wasn't NZ discovered by the Dutch in the 1600s? Zeeland is probably somewhere in Holland.



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Tim wrote:

FBF wrote:
Isaak Walton wrote:

 Hope the summer is sunny in Africa.


 Probably will be, but he is in New Zealand which brings me to the question "Where is old Zealand"? and how come they let you in?


C-

Wasn't NZ discovered by the Dutch in the 1600s? Zeeland is probably somewhere in Holland.





Wasn't New Zealand discovered by a fisherman from the Philipines around 4000 years ago?

There's a Zealand on Denmark but I'm fairly sure it was a Dutchman who was the first person from Holland to discover it and it was a Cornishman who first shouted "I zea Land" in the late 1700's from his lofty crowsnest.

Cross dressing is the answer to FBF's other question, it fools them everytime.

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Pardon me you bunch of Herberts but they dont just let any old joker in,on the night I got my passport in the Auckland town hall none other than Tims favourite comedian the fine upstanding Michael Barrymore was there getting his, he told me in the bar later that he got in on the persecuted poofters visa, so Peter bc theres a way in for even you, I know your not fully gay mate but I,ll wager you help out when they,re busy.x

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Thanks for that Sloppy, I deny everything and rely on pink paranoia, alcohol abuse and needing nicotine to come to kill me, alternatively make a weedy wundamentalist survival and return.

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m.youtube.com/watch%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DetviGf1uWlg

Groovy.

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Stone roses....

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www.film4.com/reviews/2013/the-stone-roses-made-of-stone

Good to have water option.

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Hic!

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Groove is in the heart.

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Shall, will, should ....

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Is it sounding more harmonious?

The engine, clutch, drive chain ?

Would ear plugs help?

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Wasn't a problem on Sunday.  But then it was probably drowned out by Lucky's kickstarting efforts, Henry's chain off and that darn squelchy moorland.

Happy days.

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Good news then, maybe it was the clutch?

The Luckster hasn't gone for the replacement yet then. Rumour has it the starter doesn't work on the freerides either with the added Brucie bonus of no kickstart to wear yourself out with so you have to amuse yourself with bump starting down slippery slopes.

What about a Beta Alp?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Betamotor-BETA-ALP-4-0-2014-GREAT-ROAD-TRAIL-BIKE-SUZUKI-MOTOR-4883-/251372096920



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I was in Thor MCs last week and got the full rundown on the Betas and GasGases from top man Colin.  The Alp200 is interestingly low and light but the 350 is a bit higher and a lot heavier - both have air cooled Suzuki engines.  Apparently, there's a new GasGas 250 trail bike (Cami) due this month and the price is expected to be around £4500.  I poked him with the GG reliability issues but he wasn't having any of it stating that both Beta and GG wipe the floor with KTM when it comes to reliability.  He also mentioned that GG and AJP have been working together and share a lot of bits, including GG using the new AJP 250 LC engine. Certainly worth popping in to stroke them if your in the area.  They've even got road bikes in lovely new showroom.

And we're all invited trail riding in Cornwall...



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ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

You just made me look at Thors site and now I'm infected with HD, I had no idea they did such things and to think I nearly went in there whilst trailriding my way by last year.

I'm liking the Beta Alp, I didn't realise they still made them.

The Cami may well be interesting and if they can shift a few units spares should be more readily available........ but in the mean time I'm potentially uploading another dirtbike into the workshop of doom. More details soon

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Snaf wrote:

ARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

You just made me look at Thors site and now I'm infected with HD, I had no idea they did such things and to think I nearly went in there whilst trailriding my way by last year.

I'm liking the Beta Alp, I didn't realise they still made them.

The Cami may well be interesting and if they can shift a few units spares should be more readily available........ but in the mean time I'm potentially uploading another dirtbike into the workshop of doom. More details soon


I was trying not to mention HD as it tends to unleash a flurry of offtopicness.



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Now Tim, you say they do HD. Thats interesting. May see if they will do a trail version. Off topic my arse.



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Snaf wrote:


........ but in the mean time I'm potentially uploading another dirtbike into the workshop of doom. More details soon


 

Ah, you little tease Snaf. Go on, spill the lentils. 



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